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The ethics of paleo, cannibalism, atheism

Originally posted to deafferret on 2012-09-26.

irc.perl.org #paleo

17:14 <@jhannah> I think you could change my mind about my qualms about eating meat. I don’t currently think eating other animals is Intrisiquely Good. I do think that typing my thoughts is extremely inefficient, so we should talk at the next Perl/whatever conference we’re both at. :)

17:15 <@jhannah> i also don’t think it’s Intrisiquely Bad, I just have a lot of animal treatment ethics stuff in my head

17:15 * jhannah could get into it, but I suspect that would make me clock out for at least 2 hours :)

17:16 <@foo> indeed, i’m very much AGAINST CAFO (confined animal feeding operations, or whatever that stands for)

17:17 <@foo> CAFO == uhappy animals & bad food being fed to them == poor nutritional quality for us.

17:19 <@jhannah> we probably shouldn’t try to get into this online, but my philosophical ponderings would wander towards “so, if we treat animals well and eat them, should we not also treat our elderly well, and then kill and eat them?”

17:19 <@jhannah> then my atheism becomes a hot topic (maybe), etc.

17:19 <@jhannah> big mess :)

17:19 <@foo> no, the meat would be too tough and stringy.

17:19 <@jhannah> is that the ONLY reason?

17:20 <@foo> no - chances are good that they’ll have had a lifetime of eating the wrong stuff, making their meat & fat poor nutrition as well.

17:20 <@jhannah> yes, but if our realitves were all paleo, and hit age X, shouldn’t we kill and eat them?

17:21 <@jhannah> or functionality X

17:21 <@jhannah> and if not, why not? and doesn’t that apply to animals?

17:21 <@foo> yeah, why not? the earth is overpopulated.

17:21 <@jhannah> ah, see. that position I can respect :)

17:22 <@jhannah> its the “eat other animals, but NEVER people” position that I have trouble with

17:22 <@jhannah> ethically

17:22 <@jhannah> see how twisted I am?

17:22 <@foo> indeed

17:22 <@jhannah> my parents (both ministers) explain all this via their religion

17:22 <@jhannah> we’ve had very long investigations of it

17:22 * jhannah heads back to work (this could go on for weeks :)

17:23 <@foo> “then my atheism becomes a hot topic” … so you’re the product of two ministers, but you’re an atheist?

17:23 <@jhannah> yessir

17:23 <@foo> fascinating.

17:23 <@foo> i’ll let you get back to work

17:23 <@jhannah> :)